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Deb Hillyer's avatar

Marge, I know the answers, I don't need to read anything. If you want to know why my answers are what they are, read my article on the End Times and the book Victorious Eschatology. Victorious Eschatology is written by two former theology teachers who were preaching the false narrative for years before researching and writing that book. All those scriptures you mention are decoded in Victorious Eschatology.

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Cynthia Gruwell's avatar

So truthful

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Deb Hillyer's avatar

Acts 3:21 tells us specifically that Jesus is to stay in heaven until the restoration of all things spoken by the prophets, the prophet Daniel. I highly recommend the book Victorious Eschatology for clarification on defeatest Eschatology.

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Marge's avatar

When will we meet Him in the air?

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Deb Hillyer's avatar

You won't because the Rapture is a made up theory by John Nelson Darby. It's really well explained in the book Victorious Eschatology. And the story of the wheat and chaff is a great explanation that God's people want to be left behind because they will be building the Kingdom..."on earth as it is in heaven"

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Ron Kays's avatar

Paul’s preamble to the primary Rapture reference was delivered to the Church in the 1st century:

“For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.” —1 Thessalonians‬ ‭4‬:‭15‬

It is not a new doctrine. And it was received by Paul directly from Messiah.

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Marge's avatar

There is no Scripture to support your claim that God’s people want to be left behind to build the kingdom

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Deb Hillyer's avatar

Proverbs 25:2 "it's the glory of God to conceal a matter, and the glory of kings to seek out a matter". You won't completely understand scripture by reading it alone, you must be guided by the Holy Spirit, which is the spirit of God's truth. In my article The End Times Narrative That's Fake News I lay it all out with the proper scripture.

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Marge's avatar

Deb, read the verses I sent earlier and tell me your understanding of what they mean

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Deb Hillyer's avatar

I have to work today, will try to get to it later today.

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Deb Hillyer's avatar

I never use Google, it's their truth.

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Marge's avatar

Asking for your understanding of the Scriptures sent earlier. Everything should be sifted through the truth of Scripture, even Google

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Deb Hillyer's avatar

I sent them earlier, I don't think you got them though.

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Marge's avatar

Explain 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 Matthew 24:40-42 Luke 17:34-37 John 14:3

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Henny Dupoint's avatar

So cool to read, I'm an extreme introvert I guess, mom and half sister are bible quoters while doing the devils work! So I've always seen my own truth. I said this is was the devil work wanting us to starve or get a shot, I am pretty sure Satan is the god of the bible, the creator of all is nameless and just beyond anything good

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Marge's avatar

God is the only one true God. Satan, a fallen angel, was created by God but chose to rebel against Him and was cast out of heaven with his minions. God is sovereign over all things, even the devil. He allows bad things to happen to fulfill His purposes that will be good things. He sent His Son Jesus to die on a Cross to pay the penalty for our sins so that we could live in heaven with Him forever. Jesus did not stay in the grave. He rose from the dead as we do when we surrender our lives to Him, repent of our sins and believe in the one and only true God

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Prayer Warrior Paisley's avatar

You neglected to mention Satan's wrath against the Jewish people. May I ask why?

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WalkwithHIM's avatar

Erudite…. Thank you for navigating the ship on constant course…well done ✅

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Sarah's avatar

You made some great points in this article! I agree that the difference between God's wrath amd Satan's wrath is not discussed enough.

And I also agree that the Scriptures support that God's chosen ones will be hidden possibly at the midpoint in the Tribulation. But I have wondered about the timing of this in relationship to Revelation’s seals, trumpets, and bowls.

Can you please share the Scriptures for why you believe a rapture occurs before Revelation’s trumpets and bowls?

Thanks and blessings in Messiah as we await His return!

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